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LT. COL. BERRY: And because I had the background of electronic warfare, electronics, software electronics, and they are highly technical. Plus I was in the field…in the Ministry of Defence I was in DGQA. That is very important factor for any procurement. You must already be knowing all these things…
TEHELKA: Yeah.

LT.COL. BERRY: …very well aware. So there I was with him for about almost three years. A little one month, month-and-a-half. And there I had introduced Israel, in particular.
TEHELKA: Okay. Which company was this?

LT. COL. BERRY: Tadiran, Elistra, Symtech, Elbit…god knows.
TEHELKA: Through Mr. Khanna?
LT. COL. BERRY: Yeah.

TEHELKA: He was the main dealer?
LT. COL. BERRY: (continuing): …see, now…after that is important. So I got myself…you know…once you are just working for agents, it's a different set-up because…. Agents, what they do is, they normally try to go for…the big agents I'm talking about….

TEHELKA: It's all illegal, right?
LT. COL. BERRY: Hmm?

TEHELKA: It's all…middlemen and all…illegal.
LT. COL. BERRY: It's all illegal.

TEHELKA: Okay.
LT. COL. BERRY: Because legally toh you are not allowed to do…
TEHELKA: Yeah.

LT. COL. BERRY: …have at all.
TEHELKA: Okay, then?

LT. COL. BERRY: You are fully aware.
TEHELKA: Yeah, I am.

LT. COL. BERRY: But what they used to do is they get into three-four companies. You give to one politician and get three-four companies signed with you directly. So you're loyal to nobody.
TEHELKA: Okay.

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