Singh also gives an example of how he's manipulating the
Price Negotiation Committee in a deal worth Rs. 480 crore.
Each one of the 6-7 committee members will get about 0.25
TEHELKA: You know, you give me example…some example,
then only I can work out.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: See, there are two things, which we
should be very clear. One thing is that one needs to be honest
and to be honest, it's not only good to be honest but it must
also show to be honest…I've explained it, that is the purpose.
No one can go to the court of law on the issue.
TEHELKA: Exactly, that is true.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Right, so it's only a reminder that
this was the understanding between you and me…who's got the
time and who's got the patience? Supposing it is a more of
trust on which these deals are done. Something is going on
now at the moment, the deal is…480 crores deal…the PNC is
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Right? They asked to drop down from
50 per cent…from the quoted price they offered to 10 per cent.
Then they came to 20 per cent. They came down to 35 per cent.
Now the gap is 20 to 35. Fifteen per cent gap now. The party
approached, they approached minister, approached everyone,
nothing happened because minister also knows that he cannot
put his neck in a situation where he will be caught. And he
is not the person who will ever put his neck. He is very clever.
TEHELKA: George Fernandes? Okay.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: So he will never put, he knows his
survival…he is a 4-man party. He knows where he can survive.
So the answer was…so this party came they started offering
me half per cent. So I said, "Are you joking with me?" Then
they said, "One per cent." I said, "Still you are joking."
I said, "Five per cent." So from 5 per cent they came to 3
per cent. So now it will be between 3, three-and-a-half per
cent and our job is from 35 to bring it to 28. So 7 per cent
we are saving you.
LT. COL. BERRY: They are getting extra margin there.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Out of that, I am only sharing half
with you. Fifty per cent, fair or unfair.
LT. COL. BERRY: See, because it will reach that stage.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Fair or unfair.
TEHELKA: Fair, fair.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Okay, so we say give me a proof that
you will give me this three-and-a-half per cent, and that
proof can be given by the bank guarantee.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: So now supposing they agree to three-and-a-half
per cent, my gain out of that is half per cent. Three per
cent will go to people.
TEHELKA: Those who are associated with you.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: No, no, the chap who is doing the
LT. COL. BERRY: Who will give the guarantee of the
TEHELKA: Okay, okay.
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: Who is the one who has to accept it,
because he is the chairman of the PNC. Then in the PNC there
is a financial controller - FACA -…that fellow has to be taken
into account. Then there are other people.
LT. COL. BERRY: There are a total of about 6-7 people
MAJ. S.J. SINGH: They have to be taken care of. Everyone
gets his about 0.25, half per cent. It comes to half per cent.
I get half per cent and I am happy with that.
Singh also makes a reference to Sudeep Choudhary, the
the Sukhoi fighter aircraft deal, and calls Choudhary
a nincompoop. Later, Colonel Berry, while pitching his
services to the 'President' of West End,
gives some more details about the kind of deals Major
done. He also lists out some of Singh's contacts.
TEHELKA: So what are the deals which Mr. Sahni is doing?
Is he a more intelligent choice than Mr. Singh would be?
LT.COL. BERRY: I'll tell you, I'll tell you now. Let
him [referring to waiter who is in the hotel room]
just go, I'll tell you the complete story.
[Pause as waiter makes tea. Berry asks Tehelka whether
he can get S. J. Singh to come directly to the room. Tehelka
agrees. Berry calls S. J. Singh on his mobile.]
LT.COL. BERRY: So I was saying ki as far as…
TEHELKA: Who's the better choice?
LT.COL. BERRY: Better choice would be S.J. Singh. I
will put it any day. Because S.J. Singh is a sub-agent of
TEHELKA: Sub-agent to…?
LT.COL. BERRY: Sub-agent or partner to Sahni.
LT.COL. BERRY: Haan. So main person is S.J.
Singh. It is just Sahni the name. That is why he is ready
to sign for six per cent. Otherwise you will have to give
10 to 12 per cent there.
LT.COL. BERRY: So…and then this is the trick of the
trade, that one must get into…and for every political adjustments
one must…one has to be very, very sure…
TEHELKA: So what are his contacts like? What kind of
deals he has done?
LT.COL. BERRY: (showing tehelka another sheaf of
papers): I…I'll tell you. These are the type of…where
he has been directly involved and directly helped. And Krasnopol
ammunition for artillery…150 crores.
TEHELKA: Krasnopol ammunition?
LT.COL. BERRY: Haan, yeah. It's a Russian company.
TEHELKA: Which year was this?
LT.COL. BERRY: Although Sahni is supposed to be the main
this thing, but actually…because I have been dealing with
Sahni for a long time…almost 10 years or so…
TEHELKA: He did it? Which year was this?
LT.COL. BERRY: Just…I think about six months back or
seven months back.
TEHELKA: Six months back?
LT.COL. BERRY: Something like that.
TEHELKA: Hundred and fifty crores?
LT.COL. BERRY: Yeah.
TEHELKA: What was the commission then?
LT.COL. BERRY: Again…this I am not very sure as to
how much amount of commission…
TEHELKA: We will ask him.
LT.COL. BERRY: This S.J. Singh will be…to tell you
TEHELKA: What else?
LT.COL. BERRY: Cornet for 250 crores, which was done
directly by him when he was not a partner to Sahni.
LT.COL. BERRY: As a matter of fact even Vipin Khanna
was looking for him to become a partner. Because he can sign
the things and [makes a gesture]…so…